Showing posts with label Vedic Astrology. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Vedic Astrology. Show all posts

Tuesday, December 13, 2016

Reading a chart

I find the interpretation call inspiring.
Read on if you care to hear some of my thoughts on interpretation, otherwise, tickle the delete key!

My thing is to read overall characteristics of the persons divine struggle or challenge in life. This is where my realizations always go.
The whole chart matters together in all matters, but we start from different starting points based on different matters.

Examples: We look to the ninth as our starting point in matters dealing with one's relationship to divine revelation. Then we can read the whole chart from the ninth house as the Lagna, and see all relationships from there- on top of the situation for the ninth lord and house, in the Rashi chart proper, as well as in the Moon Lagna Chart.

The play of the lords in all these charts, adding in their Navamsa placements, Nakshatra Placements, Shad Bala, Play in the Major periods of the life or not, gives us the overview of the situation in the chart.

To do this, we must see patterns quickly. For example, we begin with the Rashi chart. We should immediately see and feel the lordships placements as per the Rashi chart. We should then turn to the Chandra Lagna chart immediately and see it all over again there. Note mentally any repeating patters or "confluence areas"- places where planets are saying the same things, causing a "confluence" or "gathering of influence" on one spot with one message.

So now we see the Rashi, and we see the Relationship to that of the Chandra Lagna, which is to say we have grasped the life of the outter physical being from the Lagna, and from the Chandra Lagna we have gathered about the inner person's vision of their world and self.

We then note if there is agreement, conflict or the specific difference or relationship, between the outter karma and the inner hopes and wishes.

We now know the person overall. We know their life challenges, we know their inner motivations. We see the dashas, and how some of each of these two charts will likely be revealed due to the presence of the appropriate dasha lords in the years of life, whereas we note the less likely to manifest due to the absence of the appropriate dasha lords in the reasonable life span.

We note the Transits, at least the major ones, that are coming or have recently been. We do this because the slow transits, of the Nodes, Saturn and Jupiter, are significant. The Jyotish knows where these planets are at all times, so, it is very easy for them to quickly realize where they've been in the last few years.

So, they can quickly and easily see if the person has recently been through Saturn's transit over the natal moon or ascendent, or Sun, or oppositions to these. These major transits are effectual, and one must be aware, that no matter what else is going on, if the person is in Sada Sati, then certainly things are different than if they are not.

Planets act according most to the subtle science of lordship, combined with their natural peronalities. Seers must learn to realize these combinations. In doing so, one is primarily combining:

1. The planets lordships in the Rasi Chart
2. With who the planet is naturally
3. With the dispositor and house it's in
4. With it's navamsa dispositors situation
5. With nakshatra information
6. Other influences like aspects/conjunctions/transits

This is alot of information.

Learning who the planets are naturally is important. Then learning of what lords do, then realize that this lordship forces the planets to take on qualities which are added onto their natural natures like cloaks of duty and also attitude change.

For example, Jupiter is naturally expansive, but as 8th lord in the second he takes on some bad qualities as the 8th lord, such as accident-causing, and demonstrates "expansive" "speaking" leading to "accidents". That's just combining one Jupiter word with one second house word with one 8th lord word. It is this combining of influences that one must learn, by reading lists of karakas, like those presented in GJ the program.

The influences upon the dispositor of a planet, and it's Navamsa dispositor's situation in the main Rashi chart, these greatly shape the direction the planet will demonstrate it's activities. If "pure" influences are exerted upon these factors, then the planet will demonstrate it's result in a way which is pure, and leads to greater benefit in life. And then the opposite is true.

For example, look to the Navamsa lord of the Moon, and then see that planet back in the Rashi chart. See what kinds of planets are it's conjunctions or dispositor. Like if Ketu, then the person associates easily in renounced settings of spiritual awareness, and if Venus, then the worldy intelligent and successful class of persons as well as the artistic and those enjoying life, become one's associates easily, and if Jupiter, then the person tends towards the learned and aristocratic...and so on.

It is because a planet does what it is told, but because it has a personality of it's own, it does the stuff "his way". So, the Moon does things "her way", but she "does what she's told to do" by the sign, the situation with her dispositors, and so on.

All planets do what they are told, but they do things "their way". So this is why the situation with the LORDS of the planets main "sitting spot" become SO important.

The Lords of the "spot of sitting" is the Rashi lord of that sign, and the Navamsa lord of that sign. These dispositors are sitting somewhere in the Rashi chart. Look there. And without extending judgement further, without going to a secondary level, read their situation straight out, and know that that situation is being pushed down upon the planet we started with, and heavily directing it. Then see those directives being manifest through said planet, according to the nature of that planet.

In other words, the lessons come from the greater majority, which represents the interacting parts of the material energy manifested from divinity, as seen as the interaction of multiple planets in the chart, then being directed down through one planet in the chart, to actually create a "born in blending" event in one specific area of life.

Like, I have Jupiter and Saturn in the 9th in Sagittarius. Jupiter Mahadasha ran from around 10 to 26 years of age- and I've been in Saturn since then and still am.

But the Jupiter, even though so strong it seems, is the mahadasha where I experienced the Saturn influence on that ninth house and Jupiter. Then, in Saturn major I am experiencing the beneficance of that Jupiter upon that Saturn. So the events of the dashas, are more reflective of the INFLUENCES on the Maha Dasha lord.

Well, these are some condensed ideas on interpretation.

Das Goravani das@goravani.com

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Tuesday, November 5, 2013

Vedic Astrologers using Tropical Zodiac

Question: What are you thoughts on some Vedic Astrologers using Tropical zodiacs as their way practicing Vedic Astrology? 

Das Goravani: I checked years and years ago.. in my program.. you can mark 'no ayanamsa' which gives you the tropical zodiac, but you’re still in my program, all features on. (see images below) I did my chart, and let it run the readings.  Then, I read them over, and found, as much, even more, accuracy against my true life than the sidereal. 

I still use Sidereal. I have never switched. 

But I did notice this fact above one day.. and it swayed my mind. Then talked to the author of "Dots of Destiny", we used to write a lot to each other, in like 94 forward for a few years.. Nandan Chirmulay.. he said "Patterns are patterns, it’s going to work".  Hmm, that’s a direct way of seeing it. 

I find that Western Astrologers get much correct, when they talk about one’s chart, also. 

SO, my conclusion is this, this is how my mind has held it all these years:

Sidereal Zodiac, being fixed on Fixed Stars.. represents the unchangeable reality, the karma that comes from outside our system.. from God; Definite Real Bodily and Mind.

Tropical Zodiac represents the Human Conception of what is happening to Him the Human. It is Earth Based, and thus is based alike to Our Vision From Here. 

Lastly, of the three main parts of a chart, planets, signs and houses, it is signs that is the Weakest or Least Important.  In the signs, we see, that the two systems share 6 degrees still.. and the two systems leave the planets in the same houses.  So, two are shared, and one is 1/5th likeness. So, there is a lot a like.. between the two ways, sidereal vs tropical, within an otherwise vedic approach. 

Sidereal is twelfth by 24 degrees, to Tropical.  The Twelfth House always represents, one of it’s significations, is the "Inner Alone Self Space".. like.. "Bed Pleasures".. that’s an inner alone representation of 12th to the Lagna.  So all of this "Twelfth-ing" that Sidereal does against Tropical, shows, that Sidereal is in a sense the "Inner" nature of Tropical, by 24 degree, or nearly all.. 

So, Sidereal, is going to seem, to someone used to Tropical, to be, somewhat like that.. their Inner World, but not the reality, whereas Tropical will seem to many to be the opposite of that.. More Externally Real.. than that "other way" (sidereal).

But that view is opposite the "Stars vs Earth" way of saying it.  I think this comes down to "Who is more Fixed Air" than "Other".  Aquarius Energy, the transformational fixed air component of nature, is odd.. it’s fixed air, but it’s transformational.. that points to:  It is of God, for it is Fixed, beyong this plane, yet it transforms us here.  So, that is possible only when it is holding some higher knowledge that causes transformation here without it being a sign that moves. 

Those who are touched by Aquarius, may forever relate better to Sideral type of thinking, as I do, with moon in Aquarius.  Also, simply, those who are more of God than Human, they will be always more attracted to things fixed in the "beyond our scope realm".  

Whereas, those with aversion to thinking that way, will always choose that which is "ours".  

I found, both are effectual, but in two different ways. One is higher, beyond, the other is local, ours, recalculates constantly, is moving, is based on the perception of Equinoxes here on Earth, where we ignore the tilt and don’t realize it’s slipped.  

To them, God is like Sidereal, it’s slipping backwards.   Backwards!  Or, in other words, non progressive, dumb, old, stuck. 

To Siderealist’s, the tropical way of thinking is Cavalier, tenacious, ostentatious, grabbing, un holy, un pious.. etc.. 

Two ways of being, As Always.. Duality. 

I do not raise an eyebrow of negativity towards those who do it this way or that way.  I used to be a "Vedic Fanatic" with a loud voice about it.. but then I realized I would be standing alone with a few like fanatics on an island because most people are malleable in their views of things way beyond their control.  

I want to say, lastly, that Nakshatra readings won’t work with the tropical zodiac, but fact is, they do !  Odd, very odd, but I found it in my chart true.  Only there, Only there, did I look at this issue.. my chart.. I cannot say I did extensive study. Still, that the Nakshatra readings in my program worked for me well against my real life when using Tropical Zodiac within my program, was a surprise, but I will not deny what I saw to remain towing a Sideral or Vedic line. I speak what I saw.  

So there you are my friend.  Note, Graphic depicting how the equinoxes precess causing the two zodiacs is pasted below as a JPG.

Das Goravani





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