(This is an old writing)
Lately I've been programming hard, like I got that update out, and it's working fine for many people by the way, and now I'm writing a large implementation of the Degrees of the Planets in the Varga charts. So anyway, I don't always read everything. But it seems we're discussing what makes an astrologer and is it the 1st lord in the 12th.
So this inspired me to write this about what I know about what makes an astrologer by chart:
We can understand things going from the outside towards the inside.
Outwardly we know a real astrologer must be able to actually understand and perceive the sweeping effects of nearly invisible complex systems of universal controls which they perceive both scientifically as planetary orbits, and spiritually as the unfoldment of divine will.
On top of having a thus demonstrated powerfully complex and energized mind, this person must also have strong courage because Jyotish will take you to the land of death, rebirth, spiritual meaningfulness, embarrassing and revealing realizations about the often pathetic state of many souls, and other nerve jolting experiential realms, mostly mentally based.
"Wide perception and nerves of steal". Guts actually.
So often we will find that persons who are top notch in this field and it's allied fields may have one intense planet combined with enough Mars to mobilize them into action. One thing is for sure, you cannot do anything in life without energy to do it. Jyotish takes nerve-mind energy in large gulps and swallows.
The one intense planet thing means that the Panch Mahapurus Yogas principle is always point one. Anyone with one really well placed planet could be involved with Jyotish in the sense that it could give the energy required in one of Jyotish's areas of life such as intuition, awareness, psychology, event prediction, the counselor, and so on. Each of these requires the presence of one strong planet to cause or activate them fully into a significant state of existance in reality. In other words, you cannot find a seer who has no good placements. They would not be a seer if that were true. You will find the "seeing" placement, and it shall be strong.
About Mercury: Mercury is the swiftness of the message. This is the primeval nature of this planet. It is not a settled character. It is young, active, and most of all very able to carry information regardless of content, from one place to another, negotiate the connections to be made at all ports, construct all bridges, gather all documents and publish all reports. Non-committed in terms of content, but very committed in terms of handling and transmission.
So an astrologers Mercury should be not under the influence of Saturn in the sense that Saturn will slow down the speed of the transmitted messages in the intellect, thus making study harder, communications slower, and all matters of thought more difficult. This is one idea. So sometimes it is expressed that having Mercury in the 6th from Saturn in the chart is good in the sense that this is where Saturn has the least aspectual strength, thus is at it's lowest point of control over Mercury, thus lowest ability to impead the swiftness of all Mercurial matters.
Furthermore, Mercury should have high Ashtaka Varga bindus, such as 4 or more. And of course higher shad balas and other strength systems are desireable.
The thing about Mercury in the fouth from lagna or Moon derives from the concept that the King is the 10th house and his ministers the 4th house, and thus Mercury in the 4th somewhat leans towards saying that the native is intelligent enough to have their intelligence used here in this way, in advising to the King.
Astrologers used to always work for the kings and had these kinds of placements. Actually, this nowadays represents serving the people in general, but usually the "paying powerful". What it really indicates to me is simply that one will tend to use their intelligence being an important under worker especially in areas of information and communications or dialogs of some sort, but under to something rather established and strong, usually.
It also indicates that "knowledge is dear" as "Mercury in 4th" naturally speaks this signification. That is of course good since astrology is a science so fundamental that it is practically dispersed by corollary study to every nook and cranny of the possible mental world. Whoa. It's big.
So, that's some of the Mercury stuff. But that's not the whole picture by any means really.
Someone could get into astrology because they have a big teaching Jupiter.
Someone could get into astrology because their Ketu forces psychic perception onto them.
Someone could get into astrology because their Saturn is so strong that for them astrology becomes an amusing lovely black toy of absolute proof of the blackness of the material lie. Whoa.
Rahu can easily take one into astrology since His is the world of the enchanting, the magical, the maya, the trick, the cheat, the surprise, the gamble, the smoke and mirrors, the mysterious, strange and uncontrollable, all of which things are felt at times by the clients, the astrologers, the onlookers of Jyotish. Is this mystical managerie of numbers, charts, wheels and lists of points from a foreign place a super seeing science? Rahu, Rahu. Rahu makes one extremely sensitive, as if walking in a war zone lifelong, like walking in a foreign open marketplace where nobody speaks your language, but everything is beautiful, but anything terrible could happen at any moment. Sensitized, Rahu can take one beyond astrology to ultra sensitivity, or isanity, when it is placed in a very intense way in a chart.
Certain nakshatras and Gods are associated more strongly with Jyotish and where their significations appear strongly in a chart and supported elsewise then we can see their effect.
For example, the Satabhish nakshatra is said to be one which is promoting of the astrology line, along with it's other research oriented significations.
My practical experience with many astrologers charts is that many have Mercury in the 4th, that is common, either from Lagna or Moon.
I find that sensitive, caring and spiritual people, and folks committed to foreign cultures such as those who implement Vedic ways in the West actively and take all the hardship associated with that willingly, these kinds of good hearted people are often nodally influenced. Either Moon or Lagna or these Lords or a group of planets, something in their chart which is significant and telling, is nodally conjoined.
The nodes give exoticness and foreigness, deep and mysterious, awesome and attractive. The nodes are the belly dancers of the planets so to speak. Nobody can not look, it's too exotic and sexual to not look. This effect the nodes give. If a person is currently involved with Jyotish in the West, they may be of this type as you do have to be somewhat of a Merlin or Gypsie outcaste type to pull it off since really, most people will think you're into something totally dumb and useless. It's alienating. You have to have a deeper reason for your belief, and you do, and that is some nodal thing in your chart. Some connection to the foreign.
Naturally early Aries with the placement of the Asvini nakshatra is a good place to have something significant since these brothers are very much supportive of investigations into the Vedic allied sciences.
The "voodoo" placements are supportive of Jyotish, such as Debilitated Moons, or 8th house placements, Scorpionic placements, and so on.
There must be somehow light, enough light for the brain to function, the person cannot be a doofus. Remember, air signs help to bring brilliance to the mind (Moon and Mercury placements in Air Signs) because they raise it up high in the air where it can see, receive messages, floating above the material impediments, speak down on everything else, get a clear signal, travel quickly or swiftly. Ahh.....
Ketu and Rahu are like big antennas too however, and can provide an "upline" to God even from a deep cave. Get that? There's your telephone line out if you're buried deep. They are always anti the Gods, ready to do something really intense to the established order of the signs and planets. They're armed and dangerous, as are the less effective but highly malefic outer planets three.
So enough light. Let the light shine. We need some serious Golden or Greenish or whatever color the Mercury and Moon are shining within, light shining on the workbench of the natives inner mind space for them to read the Journals of Jyotish is required. My light is a little blue with Moon in Kumb.
But there must be some acceptance of external control. Solar and radiant people, with no dark side, no afflictions, and not nodal, they are not going to be under anything. They are carefree and materialistically simple minded people, whether powerful or not, rich or poor, those without faith in any higher controls and no interest in same could never love astrology.
So there has to be some respect in the chart seen for religion, for higher orders, the 9th house, the Jupiter, the first/nine connections, or similar stuff. Sometimes however this is replaced with what apparently is a replacement for this purpose, and that is namely 8th house affected matters, since this Lord has the capability to "freak and compel" people into interest in the occult. Their relationship is more one generated by ghastliness, hence they can go very deep, and be very nice about it, but at the same time sometims seem almost resigned to it all, which can scare others who are not so interested in the deep dark depths.
Jupiter in the second causes one to speak with authority and tends towards, if he's otherwise allowed by the chart, speaking about religious matters, matters of higher wisdome, guidance, truth. He's noble. Then there are various lordship placements that are favorable and unfavorable for this pursuit.
In this way, everything combines and in all subsystems of the scienc there are placements better for a thing and those worse for a given matter in life like Jyotish. It's a matter of seeing how many stack up.
Like in my case:
Jupiter in the 9th in Sag: Good for religion
Lord of 10th in 9th: Gives up rise for higher purposes
Moon in Satabhish: Good for research/science
Satabhish pada 2: apparently supportive of astrology by text
Asc in Asvini: Good for these areas
Lord of 5th in 2nd: Speaking from the intelligence
Lord of 12th from 6th in 2nd: Speaks about stopping problems
Venus in the first: Lives with brahmins
Jupiter in the 9th: Believes in pilgrimages
Mercury in 6th from Saturn: The intellect is more free to move
Mercury high in AV bindus:
Saturn conjoins the midheaven: Won't get an easy rise in life
Moon conjoins Ketu: Will be an outcaste
Rahu 7th from Moon: Will partner with strange people, will associate mentally with foreign elements and persons.
Moon conjoins Ketu: Thinks of very lofty matters like philosophy or if the chart is overall stupid, then lofty imaginary nonsense.
and so on.
My point is, you see many things and allow them to stack up.
Some things are special too. Like I have a special Jupiter, at 9-5-40 Sag, it's in 7 oif it's own/exalt. signs in the Vargas, it's in Mridu Shastiamsha, in the first in Navamsa in Gemini. It aspects my ascendent off only by 2 degrees, and it is off by one degree only in it's aspect on my Navamsa lagna which is at 10-54 Gemini. Parts of this Jupiter placement are parts of the predictions given for Tri Kala Gya yoga in Ramans book. So that's supportive of Jyotish big time. It's also mentioned- the Jupiter in Mridu Sastiamsha in Jataka Tattwa as being indicative of one who is utterly following his Guru.
So this is true, I've always been a very staunch follower and faithful Aries type boy behind my Gurus, to this day, and on into the future as far as I can see and feel.
So that is supportive of Jyotish, because when you see my chart, you have to see the connection the Moon has to foreignors, and lonliness to the max. So put that together, into foreign stuff and lonely. OK, so he lives in the wrong country.
Then, this like totally unstoppable ninth house. OK, so he's in to the really strong and Jupiterian religious thing. Yep. Then, Saturn is there in the 9th- OK, so we know now that the religion is old. OK. Pinned it. The guy is into the old religions of India and into those foreign ways and stuff and is therefore lonely where he lives, but goal oriented to be a renunciate and ascetic.
That's all there. So such a person would be open to astrology right?
So it's a matter of combining things.
I gotta go do something else, Aries away, zoom zoom zoom....
Peace and Superior Experiences of Illumination,
Lately I've been programming hard, like I got that update out, and it's working fine for many people by the way, and now I'm writing a large implementation of the Degrees of the Planets in the Varga charts. So anyway, I don't always read everything. But it seems we're discussing what makes an astrologer and is it the 1st lord in the 12th.
So this inspired me to write this about what I know about what makes an astrologer by chart:
We can understand things going from the outside towards the inside.
Outwardly we know a real astrologer must be able to actually understand and perceive the sweeping effects of nearly invisible complex systems of universal controls which they perceive both scientifically as planetary orbits, and spiritually as the unfoldment of divine will.
On top of having a thus demonstrated powerfully complex and energized mind, this person must also have strong courage because Jyotish will take you to the land of death, rebirth, spiritual meaningfulness, embarrassing and revealing realizations about the often pathetic state of many souls, and other nerve jolting experiential realms, mostly mentally based.
"Wide perception and nerves of steal". Guts actually.
So often we will find that persons who are top notch in this field and it's allied fields may have one intense planet combined with enough Mars to mobilize them into action. One thing is for sure, you cannot do anything in life without energy to do it. Jyotish takes nerve-mind energy in large gulps and swallows.
The one intense planet thing means that the Panch Mahapurus Yogas principle is always point one. Anyone with one really well placed planet could be involved with Jyotish in the sense that it could give the energy required in one of Jyotish's areas of life such as intuition, awareness, psychology, event prediction, the counselor, and so on. Each of these requires the presence of one strong planet to cause or activate them fully into a significant state of existance in reality. In other words, you cannot find a seer who has no good placements. They would not be a seer if that were true. You will find the "seeing" placement, and it shall be strong.
About Mercury: Mercury is the swiftness of the message. This is the primeval nature of this planet. It is not a settled character. It is young, active, and most of all very able to carry information regardless of content, from one place to another, negotiate the connections to be made at all ports, construct all bridges, gather all documents and publish all reports. Non-committed in terms of content, but very committed in terms of handling and transmission.
So an astrologers Mercury should be not under the influence of Saturn in the sense that Saturn will slow down the speed of the transmitted messages in the intellect, thus making study harder, communications slower, and all matters of thought more difficult. This is one idea. So sometimes it is expressed that having Mercury in the 6th from Saturn in the chart is good in the sense that this is where Saturn has the least aspectual strength, thus is at it's lowest point of control over Mercury, thus lowest ability to impead the swiftness of all Mercurial matters.
Furthermore, Mercury should have high Ashtaka Varga bindus, such as 4 or more. And of course higher shad balas and other strength systems are desireable.
The thing about Mercury in the fouth from lagna or Moon derives from the concept that the King is the 10th house and his ministers the 4th house, and thus Mercury in the 4th somewhat leans towards saying that the native is intelligent enough to have their intelligence used here in this way, in advising to the King.
Astrologers used to always work for the kings and had these kinds of placements. Actually, this nowadays represents serving the people in general, but usually the "paying powerful". What it really indicates to me is simply that one will tend to use their intelligence being an important under worker especially in areas of information and communications or dialogs of some sort, but under to something rather established and strong, usually.
It also indicates that "knowledge is dear" as "Mercury in 4th" naturally speaks this signification. That is of course good since astrology is a science so fundamental that it is practically dispersed by corollary study to every nook and cranny of the possible mental world. Whoa. It's big.
So, that's some of the Mercury stuff. But that's not the whole picture by any means really.
Someone could get into astrology because they have a big teaching Jupiter.
Someone could get into astrology because their Ketu forces psychic perception onto them.
Someone could get into astrology because their Saturn is so strong that for them astrology becomes an amusing lovely black toy of absolute proof of the blackness of the material lie. Whoa.
Rahu can easily take one into astrology since His is the world of the enchanting, the magical, the maya, the trick, the cheat, the surprise, the gamble, the smoke and mirrors, the mysterious, strange and uncontrollable, all of which things are felt at times by the clients, the astrologers, the onlookers of Jyotish. Is this mystical managerie of numbers, charts, wheels and lists of points from a foreign place a super seeing science? Rahu, Rahu. Rahu makes one extremely sensitive, as if walking in a war zone lifelong, like walking in a foreign open marketplace where nobody speaks your language, but everything is beautiful, but anything terrible could happen at any moment. Sensitized, Rahu can take one beyond astrology to ultra sensitivity, or isanity, when it is placed in a very intense way in a chart.
Certain nakshatras and Gods are associated more strongly with Jyotish and where their significations appear strongly in a chart and supported elsewise then we can see their effect.
For example, the Satabhish nakshatra is said to be one which is promoting of the astrology line, along with it's other research oriented significations.
My practical experience with many astrologers charts is that many have Mercury in the 4th, that is common, either from Lagna or Moon.
I find that sensitive, caring and spiritual people, and folks committed to foreign cultures such as those who implement Vedic ways in the West actively and take all the hardship associated with that willingly, these kinds of good hearted people are often nodally influenced. Either Moon or Lagna or these Lords or a group of planets, something in their chart which is significant and telling, is nodally conjoined.
The nodes give exoticness and foreigness, deep and mysterious, awesome and attractive. The nodes are the belly dancers of the planets so to speak. Nobody can not look, it's too exotic and sexual to not look. This effect the nodes give. If a person is currently involved with Jyotish in the West, they may be of this type as you do have to be somewhat of a Merlin or Gypsie outcaste type to pull it off since really, most people will think you're into something totally dumb and useless. It's alienating. You have to have a deeper reason for your belief, and you do, and that is some nodal thing in your chart. Some connection to the foreign.
Naturally early Aries with the placement of the Asvini nakshatra is a good place to have something significant since these brothers are very much supportive of investigations into the Vedic allied sciences.
The "voodoo" placements are supportive of Jyotish, such as Debilitated Moons, or 8th house placements, Scorpionic placements, and so on.
There must be somehow light, enough light for the brain to function, the person cannot be a doofus. Remember, air signs help to bring brilliance to the mind (Moon and Mercury placements in Air Signs) because they raise it up high in the air where it can see, receive messages, floating above the material impediments, speak down on everything else, get a clear signal, travel quickly or swiftly. Ahh.....
Ketu and Rahu are like big antennas too however, and can provide an "upline" to God even from a deep cave. Get that? There's your telephone line out if you're buried deep. They are always anti the Gods, ready to do something really intense to the established order of the signs and planets. They're armed and dangerous, as are the less effective but highly malefic outer planets three.
So enough light. Let the light shine. We need some serious Golden or Greenish or whatever color the Mercury and Moon are shining within, light shining on the workbench of the natives inner mind space for them to read the Journals of Jyotish is required. My light is a little blue with Moon in Kumb.
But there must be some acceptance of external control. Solar and radiant people, with no dark side, no afflictions, and not nodal, they are not going to be under anything. They are carefree and materialistically simple minded people, whether powerful or not, rich or poor, those without faith in any higher controls and no interest in same could never love astrology.
So there has to be some respect in the chart seen for religion, for higher orders, the 9th house, the Jupiter, the first/nine connections, or similar stuff. Sometimes however this is replaced with what apparently is a replacement for this purpose, and that is namely 8th house affected matters, since this Lord has the capability to "freak and compel" people into interest in the occult. Their relationship is more one generated by ghastliness, hence they can go very deep, and be very nice about it, but at the same time sometims seem almost resigned to it all, which can scare others who are not so interested in the deep dark depths.
Jupiter in the second causes one to speak with authority and tends towards, if he's otherwise allowed by the chart, speaking about religious matters, matters of higher wisdome, guidance, truth. He's noble. Then there are various lordship placements that are favorable and unfavorable for this pursuit.
In this way, everything combines and in all subsystems of the scienc there are placements better for a thing and those worse for a given matter in life like Jyotish. It's a matter of seeing how many stack up.
Like in my case:
Jupiter in the 9th in Sag: Good for religion
Lord of 10th in 9th: Gives up rise for higher purposes
Moon in Satabhish: Good for research/science
Satabhish pada 2: apparently supportive of astrology by text
Asc in Asvini: Good for these areas
Lord of 5th in 2nd: Speaking from the intelligence
Lord of 12th from 6th in 2nd: Speaks about stopping problems
Venus in the first: Lives with brahmins
Jupiter in the 9th: Believes in pilgrimages
Mercury in 6th from Saturn: The intellect is more free to move
Mercury high in AV bindus:
Saturn conjoins the midheaven: Won't get an easy rise in life
Moon conjoins Ketu: Will be an outcaste
Rahu 7th from Moon: Will partner with strange people, will associate mentally with foreign elements and persons.
Moon conjoins Ketu: Thinks of very lofty matters like philosophy or if the chart is overall stupid, then lofty imaginary nonsense.
and so on.
My point is, you see many things and allow them to stack up.
Some things are special too. Like I have a special Jupiter, at 9-5-40 Sag, it's in 7 oif it's own/exalt. signs in the Vargas, it's in Mridu Shastiamsha, in the first in Navamsa in Gemini. It aspects my ascendent off only by 2 degrees, and it is off by one degree only in it's aspect on my Navamsa lagna which is at 10-54 Gemini. Parts of this Jupiter placement are parts of the predictions given for Tri Kala Gya yoga in Ramans book. So that's supportive of Jyotish big time. It's also mentioned- the Jupiter in Mridu Sastiamsha in Jataka Tattwa as being indicative of one who is utterly following his Guru.
So this is true, I've always been a very staunch follower and faithful Aries type boy behind my Gurus, to this day, and on into the future as far as I can see and feel.
So that is supportive of Jyotish, because when you see my chart, you have to see the connection the Moon has to foreignors, and lonliness to the max. So put that together, into foreign stuff and lonely. OK, so he lives in the wrong country.
Then, this like totally unstoppable ninth house. OK, so he's in to the really strong and Jupiterian religious thing. Yep. Then, Saturn is there in the 9th- OK, so we know now that the religion is old. OK. Pinned it. The guy is into the old religions of India and into those foreign ways and stuff and is therefore lonely where he lives, but goal oriented to be a renunciate and ascetic.
That's all there. So such a person would be open to astrology right?
So it's a matter of combining things.
I gotta go do something else, Aries away, zoom zoom zoom....
Peace and Superior Experiences of Illumination,
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